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Let’s get real.

I was listening to Bobby Conner yesterday

 

Gotta love Bobby Conner.  I actually met him once and he prophesied over me.  That an event would happen, but not so much what it means or what will occur because of it. Still waiting on that to see.  Anyway, I’m listening to him and he brings up a scripture I know well.

Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. – Jeremiah 29:12-13

Nothing big and new here, but just re-emphasizing this for me.  If you want to find the Lord, then you must seek with ALL your heart.  There’s no half-hearted effort to be had here.  All or nothing.  This was just one of like 5 times I had to stop the video in just the first 30 minutes or so.  So many good little nuggets.  Anyway, it just hit me again how important this is.  I’m getting more desperate and focused, which is good, but I need to push deeper.

Not sure if you saw this video I posted a while back:

https://wordpress.com/post/waitwithme.wordpress.com/630

Looks like the video link doesn’t work anymore, I probably have it saved somewhere if you need it.  It was Neville Johnson’s son(Mark) talking about how his eyes were opened.  Basically he got determined enough and he knew one of the keys to God was sacrifice.  So he took a show he watched with his dad often, and put that time aside to spend with the Lord.  This came to mind recently as I was thinking about the Old Testament.  There are all these sacrifices and offerings they give which are representations of spiritual sacrifices, yet only one of them was Jesus.  The Sin or Trespass(forgive me, don’t want to go digging right now).  But there were others.

God is big on sacrifice.

I’m ready for something new.  I’m ready to stop flopping around in the same area and listening to all these things but seeing so few of them.  Let’s take Mark’s approach here.  We will find God when we search with all our heart.  So let’s pick out something in our heart that isn’t necessary.  Not family or job ( well, maybe job ), but something not required.  TV show, books, hobbies, etc.  I am not saying to cut it all out ( at least not right now ), but pick out something big and important to you.  Something you desire.  A good example for me is audiobooks.  I love to listen to them as I mentioned.  I’ll go little periods without, but always fall back.  Pick out a thing or two and commit it to God.  I’m not saying forever, just long enough.  I would suggest picking something that frees up time, because you need to put that time into God.  Praise, worship, prayer, and especially just waiting upon Him.  I’ve actually got a couple things in mind, one which is not exactly a sin, but close enough it doesn’t count as the type of sacrifice I’m meaning.  But others do.

Now take that sacrifice, stand before the Lord, and tell Him you will set that aside until He moves.  How long?  As long as it takes.

I can’t stand living like this much longer.

You in?

 

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That was fun.  I had heard about him and ended up meeting him through some friends.  Pretty down to earth guy, sort of country small town guy.  You wouldn’t expect much from him to look at or talk to (at first).  He isn’t a pastor, or even a normal “minister”.  He doesn’t have a big ministry or anything even known.  Yet God has touched him.  Wow.

I just heard him telling stories.  One of them he was brought over to a country in Africa to be one of a couple speakers for a conference of several thousand pastors.  He speaks at churches in the area, but mostly just goes where he’s led.

He says he doesn’t go minister somewhere unless God tells him.  So he hasn’t set up a ministry or church, even though enough people would follow him it could have.  He has seen healings, deliverances, and so on.  The best story was the beginning one though.

He was part of a small church and stuck on a committee ( of one ) to look for the new pastor.  It was going badly, divided church, no one could agree.  So he began a nightly prayer meeting.  Every night him and his wife would go to the church and pray.  This kept on for about 5 months or so I think.  Finally God told him it was time to leave.  He had grown up in this church, so a big deal for a little country church.  Well that leads down a couple paths to this period where God baptized him in the spirit and he had a period where he couldn’t talk normally for days.  God would lead people in and he could minister to them, but otherwise, nothing intelligible would come out of his mouth.  One was a woman who came that morning to see him.  Her and her husband had troubles and were on the verge of getting divorced.  During the drive to his office, she was praying to God about it.  Well when she got there, suddenly this man started talking.  Now in this case, he had no idea what he said, it was like God said it in his ear and it just came out.  Well he repeated this woman’s prayer from on the way word for word.  She ended up in tears on the floor.  Her words on the way out were “our marriage will be fine”.

There were so many other stories he gave of what God had done.

This is the kind of ministry that touches my heart.  The type where God steps in and does something none of us could do.  And it all began when he started praying to God for an answer and wouldn’t give up.  That’s the sort of dedication I’m seeing across many of these ministers.  Same thing Neville talks about, you keep doing and doing it until you break through.

Don’t we all wish to do the work of God.  I imagine the day I come up to Heaven and wonder if I will be greeted like Jesus’ parables for the faithful servants.  Will I come and find that I have done well for Him or not.  Personally I think if we’re not sure, we should fix that, but that’s not the point of this post.  No, I want to focus upon the work of God itself.  What works are pleasing to Him.  What deeds should I be doing to know that I am doing well.

I’ve been in church a long time.  I know the answers.  Go on mission trips, lead a small group or Bible study, volunteer with the children’s classes.  Summer camps, committees, witnessing, giving.  There is so much to be done and much that the church needs.  In fact we were given a book to help us here.  I am a Church Member.  An interesting book with a lot of good points and suggestions.  You can pretty much narrow it down to that same concept as the famous line from John Kennedy “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country”.

Yet through all this, something is still wrong.  Then guess what I ran across a couple days back.  I am still amazed I can find verses like these in scriptures I have read many times.  In John 6 Jesus was speaking of working for the bread that endures.  Then He just comes right out there with it.

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”‭ – John‬ ‭6:29‬ ‭

Well, there it is.  The work of God is not ministry, service and giving.  Those are all great and fit into it, but that’s not where you start.  You start by believing.  Not just believing in a God that has saved, but in this Jesus whom you know.  All the work is done in believing in Him.  When you believe, you change your life.  When you believe in His love, you declare it to others.  When you believe in His power, you introduce it to the world.  When you really believe in Jesus, you escort Him into your life to change you, and the world around you.

Believe.  That is the work you need to do.  When that belief is rooted in you, it will overflow out of your life.

 

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him! – Matthew 7:7-11

Too often we look at scripture and match it up to our experience.  In this case it says that “whoever asks receives”.  Well I know I’ve asked God to heal someone and they weren’t, so my experience says there must be more to that verse.  This intrinsically leads me to not believe in this verse until I can wrap my mind around what makes it not happen.  I don’t understand it, so I don’t believe it.

Yet, the Bible says it.  Something I started catching onto a couple years back is that it doesn’t matter what our experience tells us.  We don’t take the Word and run it through our experience to understand it.  We’re just human.  We don’t have the experience and knowledge to do that.  It’s great when I can understand it fully and know exactly how it works, but even there I must be careful.  When I take a set of verses and say I know how something works, I’m looking more at a formula and less at a person.  So what the Spirit brought again to my mind today is to forget what I know(or more accurately what I think I know).  Forget it.  If the Bible says it and I don’t understand, so what.  Believe.  As I believe something, then I can start understanding.

Now, let’s apply this to my journey.

  • I’m asking to hear and see God in a more intimate way.
  • I’m seeking after a closer walk with Him, to see Him face to face.
  • I’m knocking upon the doors of heaven that I may enter and know my family and my home.

how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him”

I am asking to know my Father who loves me.  Basically, I’m asking for eternal life.  I know that’s His will, I know that is what is good for me.  Jesus said those who ask receive.  That means I will get my wish, find what I seek, and the door will be opened.  It’s not a question anymore, just a timing.  What does that mean?  That means I pray differently.  I seek different.  I pray with confidence in God’s word.  I seek expecting it to happen.  All I’m doing it aligning my life with God to speed up this process that I may know Him better.

God will answer, He’s promised.

 

Ancient of Days

There I beheld the Ancient of days, whose head was like white wool, and with him another, whose countenance resembled that of man. – Book of Enoch 46:1

I’m stuck.  Part of it is me, part of it is my spirit.  I made it up to chapter 46 a couple weeks ago and haven’t moved past.  I got focused away from the Lord for a bit, then I was focused on my writing, but over it all, I’m stuck on the phrase “Ancient of Days”.

Why?  Because my heart said stop.  I can’t go on yet. This is the type of thing I do sometimes.  When I feel there is something deep that the Lord is trying to whisper to me, I don’t want to move on.  I want to get it.  And there is something here.

First I searched the Bible, knowing I’ve seen that wording before.

I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire. – Daniel 7:9

Later on you see references to the Son of Man as well along with the Ancient of Days.  It mirrors even in the description of how he looks to Enoch, which is neat to see.  Similar experiences from Enoch to Daniel, and Daniel had some of the greatest revelations we know.

Next I do my typical, BibleHub.com.  I pull up the verse, look at the translations, and then look to the Hebrew to see what each word “could” mean.  Without context and actually knowing Hebrew well, I can’t be sure, but often little fun clues pop up.  Got some thoughts there, but not a lot.

So I finally did what I typically really avoid doing.  I googled it.

Why do I avoid this, because there’s so much junk out there.  And sure enough, I start wading through it.  I find the theologies and commentaries dry.  I want life in the words, and they do a word study and correlation ( similar of course to what I did ), and give their conjectures.  Basically, we think it’s God, but it may be Jesus.  The Ancient of Days seems to refer to the one that existed before days were created.  And that’s it.

Really.  I didn’t see anything past that.  When I hit such an intriguing name of God and nothing.  Oh, I wandered of the deep ends of the net and even ended up off looking at the Behai faith and a guy who says Enoch became an Angel and thinks that we are reincarnated.  Interesting to run across, but feels worthless in my spirit.  No, I find nothing.

So now I’m down to where I should’ve began, at the feet of Jesus.  There’s actually another translation for the Hebrew word they use as “Ancient”.

Venerable – commanding respect because of great age or impressive dignity;worthy of veneration or reverence, as because of high office or noble character.

Now that gives me something that fits better along what I was thinking.  Ancient of Days to me is the one who was there in long ages past.  They have the wisdom of knowing what all has occurred.  The one who was there in the beginning when it all began.  Before time, before the earth, before creation.  The one who’s hands molded us from clay.  The Ancient of Days who is the beginning, but also the end.  All roads lead back to Him.  And this ancient of Days will take His seat to judge.  This Ancient of Days is there waiting for us.

So I go on my knees and do what I often do in intercession.

So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. – Hebrews 4:16

As I typically do, I close my eyes in stillness and go to my quiet place, my garden with the Lord.  I wait and reach out for Him and come before Jesus.  I always start there.  Something in me just says that it’s right to always start at Jesus.  Then I ask Him to come with me before the Father.  I have never felt any hesitation, concern or lack of interesting.  I always get the feel of “Yes, lets go there”.  And I imagine myself coming before the throne.  I think of the throne and the temple, but now I think of the Ancient of Days who has taken His seat upon that throne.  And I kneal, with nothing else I can say.  What do you bring before that One.  What can you do but honor and just stand amazed.

Is it my imagination, yes.  Does that mean it isn’t real?  I’ll let you decide, but the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

 

 

It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” – ‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Have you caught on that I like lists?

1. Enoch prophesied – this is our first indication that Enoch was more than just someone who pleased God. Not sure if I’d say he is a prophet, but he prophesied of the end times, and it’s important enough to show up in scripture.  I personally don’t think he was called as a prophet(not immediately).  In one of those verse on spiritual gifts you get the 5-fold offices, prophet, apostle, evangelist, etc.  I don’t think he was necessarily one of those.  I think he walked close to God and as you do that, God begins to manifest out of you. Was it not 1 Corinthians 13 that told us that love is better than all the spiritual gifts?  Because love is God, and the spirit will move in that, not just in gifts but in the spirit itself.

2.  Where did this quote come from?  Ever wonder about that?  Well, there’s a book of Enoch. We know from history this was one of the important books to Jews in Jesus time but it was lost for a long time and only popped back up in the last 100 years or less.   This is a quote directly from that book which in my eyes gives it a lot of credibility. It’s not the Bible, but neither are a lot of other books we read.

Ok, short list.  But this is the direction I am heading next.  The Book of Enoch.  I’ve already started reading it ( I read part of it before ).  Unfortunately this will take time for me to go slowly and think about it all.  I’m mainly looking for hints on His walk.  Not much there in the first couple chapters.

 

So next I want to go into the book of Enoch for a while. You can find it ——.

By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; AND HE WAS NOT FOUND BECAUSE GOD TOOK HIM UP; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God. And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him. ‭‭- Hebrews‬ ‭11:5-6‬ ‭NASB‬‬

This was the next passage about Enoch ( except for genealogies that just mentioned him in passing ).  Let’s go over the parts of this I found interesting.

1. By faith – This wasn’t an all God thing.  Of course God took Him up, but it was done by faith, Enoch’s faith.  His faith was such that the Lord could take Him up.  Why does that stick out to me, because this wasn’t God’s plan that was just going to happen.  Enoch enabled this by His faith.  If not just Enoch, why not others?

2. Death is not the best choice – His faith qualified him to go and not have to face death. I point this out because death is a result of sin. We weren’t created to die, in fact our spirit cannot, but because of sin this body can.  Go look at God’s words to Adam when he sinned.  He would die.  That means had he not, I believe he wouldn’t have.  So we weren’t made to die, which means that wasn’t God’s original plan.  This makes me think that death is a result of sin, but isn’t actually necessary.

Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death. – John 8:51

3. God took him – Might be obvious, but this is not something we do.  Our faith can enable it, but God is the one who does the work, we just allow it.

4. Pleased God – Why else should it mention it except that being pleasing to God was the main contributor as to why he was brought up.  Before he was taken up, this was his “witness”.  It was evident in His life that He pleased God so much.  To me, this implies that He pleased God so much, God decided to draw Him so near that he just left the earth.

Whether you are willing to accept it or not, there’s a section of The Final Quest by Rick Joyner that discussed the life of this beggar.  I cannot remember his name, and don’t want to go skimming the book to find it right now.  If you want to read it all, go get the book, but I’ll do a quick recap.  This man lived in poverty, had nothing to his name.  God said this man only had “one portion” of His love.  One day he ran across a cat and started to kick it, but mustered up all the love he had and just shoved it out of the way.  The Lord was moved enough he doubled the love.  This lead to something a little better, then he increased it again.  One day he ran across a tract and got saved.  That increased his love.  So he gave everything he could to buy tracts and share Jesus with others.  This continued on and on, up to a point that God said something like “all of heaven was entreating me to bring Him home”, so he let him die as a martyr trying to save someone in the cold and he came up to heaven.

The reason I brought this up, was that this man exhibited so much of love in his faith, that the heavens themselves wanted him to go home.

5. Must believe – “believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.”  This is something the Spirit keeps bringing to my attention. We really must believe that He is(seems obvious but do you always live that way?) but also that he rewards those who seek him. Not those who serve a lot, or those who give a lot, or those who are ministers or teachers. No, He rewards those who seek him. We can all do this. It must be ingrained in your heart that the reward is in seeking and finding God. Part of that(and faith) is to do all He asks, but it’s more. It’s your heart, desires and attention that must become more and more focused upon him.

I felt like the Spirit was telling me that I should spend some time on Enoch.  More specifically, that I should take some time looking at his life and help others to understand.  I don’t necessarily think it was for you guys on here, but you get to be the trial run.  We’ll work our way through scripture and then move on to other references.  To start, let’s just go over the main scripture for Enoch.

Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah. Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. – ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:21-24‬ ‭NASB‬‬

 To start, let’s just go over the main scripture for Enoch.  Enoch gets me excited.  I don’t remember hearing many messages preached on him, just that he walked with God and was taken away.  We didn’t know much more to say about that than this.  What do you preach to other Christians about how to apply this?I felt like the Spirit was telling me that I should spend some time on Enoch.  More specifically, that I should take some time looking at his life and help others to understand.  I don’t necessarily think it was for you guys on here, but you get to be the trial run.  We’ll work our way through scripture and then move on to other references.  To start, let’s just go over the main scripture for Enoch.

Point #1 – Walking with God

So what did it mean that he “walked with God”?  That is much of the mystery.  I believe it’ll be more clear as we go along, but I fall back to some of Sadhu’s teaching on walking with God.   To me, it means to walk along side, to know, to talk, to see, and to know each other intimately.  Sadhu had his definition for it that I can’t remember. I know it’s in that series about walking with God.  My definition is probably based off of his, so close enough.  I just think how I’ve seen others walk, or even think of the Bible.  God talks to them.  They see visions, dreams, angels.  The Lord works closely with them.  Think of Adam in the garden, God would walk along side and explain things.  True friendship where there is two way communication.  Working together where the spirit is leading and guiding as you work.  Trust.  Basically, all things that are so far above our typical walk.

Point #2 – We can do this.

Growing up, this was just another one of those scriptures that was one of “those” people in the Bible that were special.  We couldn’t expect to be treated like this, could we?   Of course we could.
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality. – Acts 10:34
We have to stop thinking that we can’t do things that God has shown can be done.  If Enoch could do this, why couldn’t we.  One thing he had going for him was that when he was born, Adam was still alive.  Imagine hearing the stories of Adam walking in the Garden with God.  However, we have Christ, and the Spirit.  I can’t imagine how he could find such a walk without Jesus revealed.  He must have found that revelation, and reached forward to it.  It’s like David, who had a heart after God but without Jesus was still walking under a harder covenant.

Point #3 – He was just a man

Think about it, he wasn’t even like many of the figures in the Bible.  He had, what, 10 scriptures written total with him mentioned?  I like to think that he wasn’t even a big “pivotal” figure in the Bible, as it wasn’t planned for him to lead Israel, walk with Jesus, etc, and yet he found a way.  He wasn’t a big prophet or apostle, and yet, how many people can say they walked so close to God, that God just took them home.  Enoch, Elijah, maybe Moses.  Were there more?  I can tell you yes, though I can’t give you proofs.  This still happens.  People who are so close to God that He just brings them up as they don’t need to die.  Those who overcome death itself.  That’s the plan for the end-time army, but Enoch got ahead.  I think he just drew some close to God in a relationship that he was there for that very purpose.

Point #4 – Normal family man

Notice, he didn’t walk with God until his first child was born.  After than, he had more sons and daughters.  That means he did this as a husband and father.  He took care of his family but still walked with God.  That says he’s not much different than me.  He wasn’t like Paul who said it’s better to not be married and focused on God, he found the way in that.  I personally find that encouraging.

 

How do we do this?  I hope to find more exciting things as we keep looking at Enoch to help encourage me but also to explain to me how Enoch was able to.  Relationship should be our goal, not results.

As I was waiting on the Lord today, I was reminded of something Neville Johnson said in his series, Laying Proper Foundations, and basically what he said is that God cannot bring you into the Spirit world while you have certain.. we’ll say wounds.  I can’t really think of the word, but unrepentant sins, areas in your life your susceptible to the enemy, things that haven’t been worked out.  To do so is dangerous because you can so easily be decieved.  After hearing this again, I had to go back before the Lord and lay some things down.  There are some attitudes that I have held lately that are not healthy or Godly.  I had to give those up.  You know, it’s really hard to give things up when you are convinced you’ve been wronged.  You want it to be made right, not to let it go.

But I did.

I think. 🙂

So I was reminded of that again today.  How there’s a certain level of holiness required to get closer to God.  You don’t have to be sinless to know Him, to be used by Him, but there is only so much He can do when you are serving two masters.  I believe Paul Keith Davis liked to call this the Thrones of our Soul.

Do you have an area that you are currently in sin, or fall to easily into sin in?  Are you living with attitudes of the enemy.  Bitterness, regret, envy, lust.

Give them up.  Unless you can come clean, you can’t come far.

Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it? – Luke 14:28

This is actually a response to a question from another post, but figured it’d be good to get out there and say my thoughts here.  The original question was when I’m trying to wait on God, do I clear my mind or focus upon the Word.

How I see it, those are two things.

First there’s meditating upon the Word.  In this instance you probably want to spend time in prayer and worship to get yourself “in the spirit”, basically to where you feel the presence of the Lord, and get focused more upon Him.  Then you take some scripture, and just spend time on it.  What you’ll see I often do is use time when I’m doing something like mowing the yard ( doesn’t take much thought ) or driving to just mull over scriptures.  Repeat it, say it out loud, think through each part of it, etc.  I still think that’s just part of it, and that there’s a much deeper part I haven’t gotten to you.  This is mainly from Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj’s teachings on meditating on the Word.  He says you get in that quiet place, and then just go over and over it.  When you do this, you have different levels of revelation.  The first level is where I typically get to, the Holy Spirit speaking to you, other levels are angels coming to make things clear, the Lord speaking directly to you, Jesus coming, or even going into the Word to experience it.  Neville Johnson also speaks about this some in His teachings.  Both are similar enough in that you get into that quiet place where you are in His presence, and then just focus upon the Word and stay there.  Keep reading, speaking, thinking.  Preferably until something happens.

I don’t do enough of that.

Since I don’t get as much time along and quiet, I tend to try for the other thing, waiting on God.  I’m actually going to sort of take this 3 ways here…

  1. Watching with you eyes, from Praying Medic – From his books ( focused more upon seeing in the Spirit ), he starts with getting in the dark, praising the Lord quietly, and just watching.  Basically try to keep a blank “visual” image and see what shows up.  Keep practicing this to start seeing with your Spiritual eyes.
  2. Visualization.  Neville talks more about visualize.  So in this case, you focus upon the Lord.  Again, very similar to above, first spend time in prayer, praise and worship.  Clear everything else out, find that place of feeling God’s presence, and then just sit and soak.  Picture Jesus in your mind, and stay there.  If need be, speak in tongues quietly or have some music(without words) in the background.  Try to keep your mind clear but focus upon the Lord.  Something I’ll just very quietly praise Jesus or even just say His name to stay focused.
  3. Stillness.  This is Sadhu.  He doesn’t talk about visualizing ( though he doesn’t say anything against that).  Basically he’s big things are desiring the Lord and staying very still and quiet.  This is perhaps the hardest as your mind will just go and go.   I think that’s the case in all of these.  There was one series where he discussed when he first started doing this.  He would come into complete stillness ( no other thoughts, just complete quiet in his mind ) as long as he could.  After a while he got up to going 30 minutes at a time, then suddenly the Lord spoke to him audibly.  If you want to know this, I can probably track down the right one, I know I’ve mentioned it before.

 

In any of the cases, the really big things I’d say are:

  1. Desire – You must come in love for the Lord and yearning for Him.
  2. Expectation – Expect Him to show up, it makes it more real.
  3. Stillness – Try to stop any thought of yours.  It will be hard and takes practice, but that’s what practice is for.  This is something you have to train yourself, but if you can’t be still, you’ll have trouble hearing.

 

In my cases, I think I tend to try to just visualize the Lord and stay quiet ( sort of a combination ).  What I haven’t done is continue to do this day after day and make sure I start building up that endurance to stay there.  Like with so many of these things, I do it for a while, then fall off and I’m not as earnest.

Hope this helps.